tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424296.post114467763914357872..comments2023-10-19T15:35:49.172+05:30Comments on kartik kannan's space on the web: Kartik Kannanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01474924386712020221noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424296.post-1147657768947347292006-05-15T07:19:00.000+05:302006-05-15T07:19:00.000+05:30the problem with the reservations is that it is di...the problem with the reservations is that it is discrimination of a sort, something i call "negative discrimination." by proposing the reservation and supporting it, you are implying that you think the bc, obc, etc. are not good enough to get in on their own merit. that is, one is saying they're so stupid that, without the reservation, there is no way they are going to get in. (fyi, that is NOT my view. i'm just expressing what sum1 who thot up the reservations must have bn thinking. their general mindset)<BR/><BR/>also, one is helping the brahmin classes with the reservation, in a way. an obc, bc, etc. person who's gone to iit or iim after the reservation will have a rather bad name. it's like, ppl assume he/she got in only bcoz of the reservation. and fc ppl who get in will have a better name for getting in despite the reservations.<BR/><BR/>i thought the indians wanted to eliminate the caste system. this is just making the differences glaringly obvious. sad, isn't it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424296.post-1147611290101870302006-05-14T18:24:00.000+05:302006-05-14T18:24:00.000+05:30Being an IITian myself, I would like to specifical...Being an IITian myself, I would like to specifically respond to one Mr Vengat Ramanan R (is the R for reserved !!...haha..just kidding dude). OBCs stay/will stay in india after IIT/IIM ONLY because they wont find jobs abroad. Those who do find, i can assure you Mr. Vengat, WILL go abroad too, and then you will be the only one to look after the farmers.<BR/><BR/>The question here is of basic education first and then higher education. You have yourself said that OBC dont go to good schools etc. <BR/>Is it then a good idea to admit people who are not clear about what was learnt in school, into institutes like IIT/IIM ?<BR/>what purpose will it serve ? they might get the IIT stamp, but they will NEVER be competent as other IITians, who will save your farmers then ?<BR/><BR/>IIT is just an enabler, the potential has to be WITHIN the student. I can name more CEOs who are non-IITians.<BR/><BR/>And by forcing peple through reservations nothing can be achieved if the students dont have the calibre, and if they do have the calibre, well, then what IIT & what IIM even god cant stop them from being successful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424296.post-1145964203402865492006-04-25T16:53:00.000+05:302006-04-25T16:53:00.000+05:30I can understand of all ur feelings(burning)becaus...I can understand of all ur feelings(burning)because u all enjoying your erned asset( Dear friends in our country more than 60% are not having minimum facilities to study) and why you are not agreeing or fail to understand Knche Ilaiah's stand. I feel pity for all of you those who are not undrestood our indian cast system and how it has been laid down. <BR/>for thousands of years the So called OC's cotrolled the other cast even if you see now also in all major sector including political parties it is controlled by(75%) OC.<BR/><BR/>I Pray for all you guys to give you good sense so that u can understand our system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424296.post-1145700845630457142006-04-22T15:44:00.000+05:302006-04-22T15:44:00.000+05:30>>>ramKancha Ilaiah is a great person >>who has so...>>>ram<BR/><BR/>Kancha Ilaiah is a great person >>who has some mud inside his skull.<BR/>You are not a guy good enough to judge him<BR/><BR/> How does he expect IIT and IIM to solve the problem of farmers, <BR/><BR/>Ye thats one of the prime objectives of IIT/IIM. These institutes were developed to produce brilliant minds who would inturn help us(poor farmers) with path breaking innovations in technology and great corporates which would generate jobs for crores of unemployed youth. That was the idea.<BR/><BR/>>>>and even if this happens , he >>>ll ask JPMC, Barclay's to offer >>these ppl high profile jobs to >>lower their suicide rates. >>Funniest crap ever. <BR/><BR/>And you expect us to heavily subsidize, with the tax payers money who are mostly OBC/SC/ST, your stay in these institutes and get a job in one of those MNC's,fly away to a foreign land and fatten your-self.<BR/><BR/><BR/>>>>Guys like this one shud be >>>admitted into some mental >>>asylum instead of being treated >>>as an intellect. <BR/><BR/>Mind your language. Just that you know to type some crap in English do not make you eligible to be counted as an intellect. Illiah is speaking the truth. No personal attacks. You are welcome to criticize his views.<BR/><BR/>Anybody can produce indecent language which would harm others sensibilities and sensitivities.Do you want a demo?<BR/><BR/><BR/>>>>krithika said... <BR/>>>>pathetic..... <BR/><BR/>Wow......<BR/><BR/>2:02 PM IST <BR/><BR/>Ma'am Whats pathetic about that? I do not mind pulling anything down if it is not solving the primary purpose.<BR/><BR/>This place is full of people who pose to be intellects. No you are not. You are replicating and proliferating someone's idea. Not being an intellect isnt wrong. You do not connect to the issue. Stop puking an idea which is furtive.<BR/><BR/>This piece was my Swan song.<BR/><BR/>VengatAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424296.post-1145699254011653312006-04-22T15:17:00.000+05:302006-04-22T15:17:00.000+05:30Hey I didnt mention my Name with my Pro-Reservatio...Hey I didnt mention my Name with my Pro-Reservation comments.<BR/><BR/>I am Vengat Ramanan.R<BR/><BR/>vengatramanan@gmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424296.post-1145698891484474182006-04-22T15:11:00.000+05:302006-04-22T15:11:00.000+05:30Hello Kartik,I understand your angst,apropos reser...Hello Kartik,<BR/><BR/>I understand your angst,apropos reservation. I went through your profile. Its not surprising to see your views on reservation.<BR/><BR/> The problem with you guys are that you do not have any idea about what India is like outside of Madras. I am a country bumpkin and mind you, I will not benefit from the quota.City dwellers like you will never understand the value of reservations. <BR/> It is not that this section(OBC/SC/ST) of people are genetically brain challenged. There are extra ordinary boys and girls among them. The problem is that they can't afford the same kind of training/coaching which you guys get. Most of them do not know that something like IITs/IIMs exist. I am sure that in 10 years time we would be feeling happy about this decision. You would see path breaking innovations relevant to our people's lives.<BR/><BR/>Normally Brahmins never bother to start their own business.Why bother about getting a seat in IIM? You know that was what IIMs were started for. To educate aspiring business leaders and enable them to generate employment.<BR/> <BR/> Your ancestors discriminated their fellow human beings for thousands of years. Its time things are evened out. This section(OBC/SC/ST) of the population has been doing all the hard work and you guys cheated them by saying that you guys are more closer to God.<BR/><BR/> Hey Truth always is bitter. A little introspection would give clarity. <BR/><BR/>Have you ever seen a Brahmin guy wanting to become an Agriculturist?<BR/><BR/>Have you ever seen a Brahmin aspiring to become a soldier?<BR/><BR/>Have you ever seen a Brahmin aspiring to be a trader?<BR/><BR/>I have never seen one. There would be exceptions. But I am talking about the man on street. One who contributes to the society, in which he lives, always is respected. What did Brahmins contribute?<BR/>Untouchability.<BR/><BR/>Mind you there were great Brahmins like Bharathiar. But then he was outcast from your society.<BR/><BR/>My dear friend I do not hate Brahmins. But the problem with you is that your ancestors never empathised the commoner. You never were in the mainstream. They have passed down all the wrong values to their progeny. Intospect.<BR/><BR/>Your argument that reservations would bring down the standard of IITs/IIMs is not valid. How many Brahmin ex-IITians/IIMians chose to stay in India and did something thats relevant to our people's needs. Afterall the IIT/IIM education is heavily subsidised by the Govt which inturn is the hard earned money that was ploughed back into the system by the OBC/SC/ST people.<BR/><BR/>Most of the Brahmin IITians aspire to settle in a foreign land.Why?<BR/><BR/>Its time to kick ass. Get down to the street. Give the OBC/SC/ST's a run for their money in Agriculture and Trade. <BR/><BR/>Jungle law is a microcosm to the world."Survival of the fittest".<BR/><BR/>Advice your fellow FC's to take up bodily challenging work. Only then they will become stronger and can develope spine.<BR/><BR/>Might always wins.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424296.post-1145416362313376652006-04-19T08:42:00.000+05:302006-04-19T08:42:00.000+05:30Can we just stop talking and do some action .. i g...Can we just stop talking and do some action .. i guess as did through British out of our country and got freedom... we should do the same with all these crap politicians... better to send them to the God court and let some of the burden of our motherland lessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424296.post-1145403311187117542006-04-19T05:05:00.000+05:302006-04-19T05:05:00.000+05:30People like Kancha Ilaiah, the supposed leaders of...People like Kancha Ilaiah, the supposed leaders of the oppressed sound like lunatics. I pity the truly downtrodden.barbarindianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14335786532366741947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424296.post-1145065804716922102006-04-15T07:20:00.000+05:302006-04-15T07:20:00.000+05:30Kancha Ilaiah is a great person who has some mud i...Kancha Ilaiah is a great person who has some mud inside his skull. How does he expect IIT and IIM to solve the problem of farmers, by giving each farmer or his family member a seat in IIM/IIT? and even if this happens , he ll ask JPMC, Barclay's to offer these ppl high profile jobs to lower their suicide rates. Funniest crap ever. Guys like this one shud be admitted into some mental asylum instead of being treated as an intellect.Ramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17267982040360350563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424296.post-1144935998494893342006-04-13T19:16:00.000+05:302006-04-13T19:16:00.000+05:30Can't understand what this man Mr. Arjun Singh wan...Can't understand what this man Mr. Arjun Singh wants to prove? Just by providing quota you will improve their status? If you want quota, it is ok if you reduce the fees but why in the line of admission you want it? How they will be benefited by getting admission on the base of quota when they don't have any talent to get any degree? <BR/><BR/>Don't surprise if some day they will come up with a quota system in the results also. At least 49.5% passed students should be from these casts.. Can't even imagine but this could come once a day. Beware.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16296176881607838380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424296.post-1144760406821887352006-04-11T18:30:00.000+05:302006-04-11T18:30:00.000+05:30True.. my blood does boil. I can't imagine anyone ...True.. my blood does boil. I can't imagine anyone saying that IITs and IIMs should close shop. And he expects that solve the problems of the farmers. Height of insanity this!Kidoredohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08860530490398925325noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424296.post-1144758804328619122006-04-11T18:03:00.000+05:302006-04-11T18:03:00.000+05:30...as an engineering student i know how much one h......as an engineering student i know how much one has 2 get into such elite institute like iit. implement d reservation scheme & a 2nd anti-Mandal protest is gonna start dats for sureAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424296.post-1144744378794003822006-04-11T14:02:00.000+05:302006-04-11T14:02:00.000+05:30pathetic.....pathetic.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3424296.post-1144725073572383492006-04-11T08:41:00.000+05:302006-04-11T08:41:00.000+05:30?????????????? ??????? ??????? ????????????? ?????...?????????????? ??????? ??????? ????????????? ??????? ????????? ???????? ?????????????. ?????? ????????????? ?????? ???????? ????????? ?????? ???? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ?????????????. ????? ???????? ????????? ??????? ???????????? ?????? ????? ??????????. ?????? ???????? ?????????? ??????????????. ?????? ????????? ???? ????? ????????? ??????? ???? ?????. ????? ???????? ?????? ????? ??????????? ??????? ????? ??????? ????????????? ????????. ?????????????? ??????? ????????????? ???? ?????????????? ??? ??????? ??????.doonduhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00204281867527196589noreply@blogger.com